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March 27, 2011

Light and Dark and stuff

Filed under: Updates — CanonRap @ 10:16 pm

Random musings.

1) It’s likely that Akamatsu meant for a Darkness-based power to become important, as the nature of Dark spells have been obscure ever since their introduction back in Volume 3, where the Lexicon literally says “we don’t know what Darkness spells do”.

2) On the other hand, the Light-element Magic Archer was explicitly said to be “pure destructive energy” in the Negima Bible. The entry immediately after – Dark-element Magic Archer – states that the Dark version ‘opposed’ the Light version, but its effects are unknown.

3) We’ve known since Volume 23 that Dark Magic, based on the primordial power of Darkness, is “the power to take in everything”.

4) Aside from Dark Magic, there have been very few Dark-based spells in the story: Magic Archer variant, Snowstorm of Darkness, and Hellfire of Purgatory – the latter two are combos using another element plus Dark, though it’s interesting to note that the Armament form derived from Hellfire of Purgatory also has an ‘energy drain’ effect.

5a) If “Dark” = “pulling in” (absorption), then would “Light” = “pushing out” (repulsion)?

5b) Dark Magic is generally used to absorb Mana and magic. Isn’t there something that does the opposite of that, ie. repulse/dispel Mana and magic – the ability foreshadowed since the first chapter, which we now know as Magic Cancel?

5c) Magic Cancel is supposed to be the power “to give life to, and end, the world”, which would contradict the above – but Magia Erebea itself is based around ‘death and rebirth’ (volume 27). Could both Light and Dark have dual natures, just like Asuna’s dualism (which I rambled about nearly a year ago)?

6a) Dunamis noted that Magia Erebea was “connected” to his Lord (the Lifemaker) – curiously different from what Fate said about Negi’s power of darkness being “doubtlessly the same” as his Lord’s (again, the Lifemaker). Although it’s hard to say if Dunamis had just phrased it strangely.

6b) Following his ‘rebirth’, Negi is now on the “grey path” – the middle ground between the two extremes of Dark and Light. But Dark and Light aren’t as different as they appear to be.

7) ???

Food for thought?

15 Comments

  1. This is what I liked about Akamatsu’s approach to Negima. It’s almost a deconstruction of all the popular shounen manga nowadays.

    Instead of having a few token females, 90% of the cast are females and some of them are pretty powerful in their own right too.

    Instead of the protagonist being unmistakably going on the “light” or “dark” road all the time, he makes Negi take the “grey” route where he realizes that “Justice” is subjective and what is important is the will to see through your decisions no matter the outcome.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Magia Erebea develops on that line you mentioned in your post, because I think they’ve been hinting on that for a while now.

    I just love the Magic/Ki system in Negima. So very detailed and even believable.

    Comment by Kurogane Shiroikaze — March 28, 2011 @ 1:17 am

    • Yeah, the points you brought up are pretty much the reason why Negima is the one manga I follow and read every week… when it’s not on break, I mean.

      Comment by CanonRap — March 28, 2011 @ 1:24 pm

  2. Good thoughts. I agree with you on Dark element and “Absorption,” though I view it in a slightly different context.

    Regarding Light, rather than “repulsion”, I see it as pure force. Dark is more like the absence of any type of resistance whatsoever. And then Negi almost took it too far and risked being consumed by Magia Erebea as well.

    So yes, duality. It either is, or it isn’t. (Of course… Akamatsu might still pull a Buddhist thing and show us all that there is no such thing as duality. Or maybe I’ve been jaded by Nasu.)

    In this context, Negi’s “Grey Path” is, IMO, his ability to effectively convert everything he takes in (Dark) into force/energy (Light).

    Comment by Kertys — March 28, 2011 @ 10:47 am

    • Shouldn’t have said “consumed”. I meant that by taking Magia Erebea to its extreme, Negi risked losing the ability to maintain his will (existence, Light) because Darkness is by its nature a lack of any such sense of self.

      At least, that’s my guess.

      Comment by Kertys — March 28, 2011 @ 10:50 am

      • The thing about duality in Negima is that the two extremes are interdependent despite their opposition.

        As ME is supposed to be “chaos”, it is concievably “wuji”, which would make ‘light magic’ “taiji”.

        Comment by CanonRap — March 28, 2011 @ 1:17 pm

        • Well, of course. That is the usual interpretation of duality. Darkness/void has no meaning without light/matter.

          Comment by Kertys — March 28, 2011 @ 2:50 pm

  3. does anyone think that akamatsu should put more omnyu magic, i feel that eastern magic should be more complete or explored. And i also that konoka should have a more important role in the field since originally she had more mana capabilities than negi like evangeline explained.

    Comment by chimera — March 28, 2011 @ 12:02 pm

  4. can you absorb with magia erebea healing magic????

    Comment by chimera — March 28, 2011 @ 12:05 pm

    • Don’t see why not… though how it would work would be speculah.

      As for onmyou, well, it’s practically a cornerstone of Negima magic (the mana/qi system, for one), so it actually is pretty prevalent. ^^

      Comment by CanonRap — March 28, 2011 @ 1:02 pm

      • Most likely if my guess is correct then if Negi uses ME to absorb a healing spell, the Armament form would be more of a defensive oriented (with very little to no offensive power), and any damage which would be done to Negi would be nullified immediately.
        Also he maybe able to channel his Healing magic Armament to perform a wide scale healing spell (we haven’t seen a wide scale healing spell in the story yet, so maybe Negi can do it with Konoka’s help).

        On another note, one of the reasons for which i like Negima, is unlike many other story which almost always make the power of Darkness as something evil, here in Negima, Ken shows the power of darkness as it really is (i.e., it is a Omnipotent power source which takes no sides but at the same time is with the both sides).

        Comment by SL from MH (GI from AQS) — March 28, 2011 @ 3:15 pm

        • Again, speculation. But that would be curious to see.

          Darkness is by no means omnipotent in Negima – in fact, it has a number of disadvantages. However, I agree with you on Akamatsu’s choice of not tying power to black-and-white morality, even though it’s a shounen series.

          Comment by Kertys — March 28, 2011 @ 3:20 pm

  5. Pretty interesting question; if the darkness can truly take in anything but Evangeline cannot use healing magic, it sort of implies that the technique isn’t actually perfectly in harmony with her nature.

    Of course it’s possible that Evangeline didn’t mean that she can’t use healing magic back during the Kyoto finale, only that she never bothered to learn any because she just regenerates all her wounds anyway.

    Comment by marvelous stan — March 28, 2011 @ 12:39 pm

    • Actually, about that – I don’t have it on hand right now, but IIRC she said she couldn’t use healing magic, not because she’s “undead” (as it was translated), but because she’s “immortal” (不死身).

      Comment by CanonRap — March 28, 2011 @ 12:59 pm

      • The way she phrases it could very well mean she doesn’t use it because, being immortal, she doesn’t need it, not because she couldn’t even if she tried.

        Comment by D-Omen — March 29, 2011 @ 12:51 am

      • Why bother with healing spells when you can regenerate immediately?

        Also, I think it was mentioned somewhere (probably during the Eva getting hay fever chapter) that healing spells don’t really affect her body due to opposing elements or some such.

        I’m quite overdue for a full reread of Negima ha ha.

        Comment by Kurogane Shiroikaze — March 29, 2011 @ 6:03 pm


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